Darshans2023#03
LIVING WITH FEAR BY STUDYING IT
Q: I understand that heart is the supporting system for the brain; but it exists some unknown anatomical connection or energetical connection with the brain?
Guruji: there is a mysterious force inside, which may be called god.
Q: how to understand the connection between this mysterious force and the brain?
Guruji: see, if a ship is going: no matter captain is piloting – but if the inner engine is out of order – what captain can do? It is like that: chief engineer is there.
You’re always in your past – past and past karmas: that karmas are also part of your past. When you’re free from them – you’re liberated.
Q: the main thing is the fear of death?
Guruji: there are millions of different fears
Q: so these fears are subconscious: it exists but we cannot feel it?
Guruji: you will know everything what you have done – all the past lives also.
Q: when yogi is just started his journey – he feels this fear from past karmas?
Guruji: we live in fear and you need to examine it. Most of the people afraid and feel the fear – but they don’t examine it. So yogis are in a better situation.
Q: what do You mean “to examine”?
Guruji: to see its every aspect. Like a doctor examines.
Q: it’s like in a religions they say that when the person comes to the hell – all his deeds are examined from every angle?
Guruji: but yogis do this consciously and by themselves. Normal people are not think about it, they are not even aware of such thing exists
Q: but they have this fear subconsciously?
Guruji: everybody is afraid
Q: mostly of the past?
Guruji: and of the present as well
Q: when yogi is seeing not very pleasant things from the past lives…?
Guruji: he learns out of it. He is not running of them, he’s ready to face the consequences – and he’s learning out of them. That is the difference between the layman and the yogi.
Q: if the person is not religious at all – he also is afraid of his past?
Guruji: learning will be there. Of course, he will never be at peace. No matter if you escape the police- you will fear some day somebody will catch you. One time one Russian asked me: please, show me the way to god, I want to realise god. I said – you’re asking this question from a wrong person. You should go to priests, mullas, pandits – they are experts in showing you the way how to reach god. It is not our subject. It’s religious subject – so ask them. We’re just concern about our own spirit and development of the mind.
Q: I’m trying to understand: this fear of past is common for everybody?
Guruji: depending on your deeds: if your deeds are not that good – you will be more afraid. Or you can say: let’s see what will happen – then you will see it without fear. Take the brighter said: you can think – if police will catch me, I will have free accommodation and medical care( smiling)always take the brighter side!
Q: in Gorakhbodh it’s very frequent topic about that abhaya and Nirbhaya state: what is this state without any fear?
Guruji: to become nirbhay is the greatest of the great achievement. The main liberation is from your fear. Only then you can relax.
Q: it is again removing some kleshas or obstacles from the consciousness?
Guruji: every klesha is a different expression of fear. I will quote here James Hadley Chase – all time thriller writer: fear is the key which opens every safe, pocket and wallet. He was a great writer.
Q: so main structure of this world is fear?
Guruji: of course!
Q: where is love?
Guruji: fear of punishment makes you hold on certain disciplines.
Q: but mostly philosophers says about love – everybody is in love, love is everywhere…
Guruji: when a policeman confronts them – suddenly philosophy disappears.
This is the main result of what you called liberation or attaining nirvana: that is nirbhay state.
Q: so vairagya is coming before that state?
Guruji: it starts yoga sadhana
People are talking that magic is superstitious thing, one should not believe in magic – it’s all technic; but I think: every life – it is magic! Whatever we have seen – is magic. And we’re trying to understand the mechanism behind it. What about life? It is the greatest magic I see. Enjoy magic!
MATTER IS THE MOTHER OF ALL CREATION
Q: about galaxies and Universe: as I understand galaxy is like purusha – like body of the body; what is Universe then? Millions of galaxies?
Guruji: it’s a big egg. One day it will unite with some big sperm and it will take birth.
Q: it’s mind-blowing – like at the same time inside and outside! And we can perceive one minute as s million years, and one million years like one second; could we apply the same to the matter? Like the smallest thing inside the galaxy and galaxy as a smallest thing?
Guruji: yes. Everything has no end: even virus has the other viruses in their bodies. Bacteria has many bacteria living inside them. There is no end of life.
Q: but Time has no calculation?
Guruji: calculation is in our nature – not in Time.
Q: but matter has the same qualities?
Guruji: it is our observation and our study of Time and matter; otherwise they are just existing in their natural state, knowing everything – which we’re trying to decipher. Matter is the mother, mater, Mata of all creation.
Q: where is Brahma then?
Guruji: brahma is the mind. Matter is conscious so there has to be some mind.
Q: it is said that Universe is like the ocean…
Guruji: of consciousness. Then there is another ocean which we called Shiv Sagar: all planets, all matter is floating on it.
Q: what is the Earth in all these things?
Guruji: a super egg.
Q: when You’re in samadhi – You can go through all the matter?
Guruji: you begin to understand the consciousness of the matter.
Q: consciousness of the matter and consciousness of the void: they have their physical shape?
Guruji: they have their own individuality, yes.
Q: that individuality maybe have not human – but other shape which can be perceived?
Guruji: yes, earth element is like golden square: they have their essential shape. Any consciousness has its own shape.
Q: what is behind the egg?
Guruji: a Shakti, a woman. Only she will introduce you to the father – after transformation.
Q: but if the yogi will decide to stay with the Mother Earth – the transformation will not take place?
Guruji: only immortality will give you this option.
Your existence, your body, your being is the centre of your Universe – what else?
Q: in a dream we can perceive the Time very differently: it can be much more slow or much more fast; in Yoga Vasishta they described like the world in the stone; so nothing has certain coordinates or measurement – but we’re trying to measure everything and we’re living inside this measurement?
Guruji: we are loving to put the limits and we’re living inside them
I’m very happy that everybody is agreed now – those, who know: what Shailendra Sharma has said and written – it is never been written before in the history of mankind. I’m very grateful that my disciples asked me so many questions: it gave me chance to sound it on. Nobody’s asking – I’m not talking, which you notice. But I can say: I survived Russian invasion( smiling).
One Russian has bought dhoti and asked me, how to tight? I called Mahatmaji, he showed him over his clothes. Then he asked a million dollars question: where should I put my genitals? I told him- you should put them carefully inside this( laughing). That was innocence!
YOGA OR MAGIC
Q: You told many times that the motivation is most important?
Guruji: finding a purpose! And create a motive inside you to fulfil it.
Q: was it the situation that someone was coming to You just of curiosity but then his motive transformed to something bigger?
Guruji: not a single such case! Curiosity will disappear anyway.
Q: is it possible that someone will make murti, but that higher being will don’t want to come in it, but ritual will be done?
Guruji: that person will suffer. Enforcing consequences. I’ve seen it.
Q: but generally it is possible to create a murti and this force cannot escape it?
Guruji: never fully. Some connection will be there, but force will remain away.
Q: like in the beginning of “Sandman”, when he was captured by Crowley?
Guruji: if a strong magic is there – I think everything is possible. But it is a very good thing now – such powerful warlocks are not available. Someone said: they must be hiding; but why they are hiding, if they are so powerful? What for?
Q: interesting why it happened: because I think in ancient times and in middle ages they were really very strong?
Guruji: till 19th century – yes, they were strong. Real witches may still be there, but nobody saw them flying on a broom now. There were the times! Witches flying on the brooms, vampires coming from their coffins, werewolves howling somewhere – these are magical times. Shapeshifting cobras dancing.
Q: You talked about exactly the 19th century: is it connected with start of Kriya yoga?
Guruji: I think Kriya yoga have its own magic. Yogi’s life has the great touch of supernatural – whenever who will practicing.
Q: could it be like plugging out from one source and plugging in to another: from witchcraft to Kriya yoga?
Guruji: witchcraft is very different. You’re contacting so many demons, devils, this and that. And you also know about nature spirits and all these things. They were pretty knowledgeable in all those things. They may still be there. We’re simply living in a different bubble – so we don’t see them. They maybe seeing us. In Rajasthan there are still stories of churels. Every grassroots Indian knows about them. But about vampires – they don’t. it’s a Christian thing.
YOGA CONVERSATIONS
Q: in pasu bhava sadhak is practicing three times a day; in vira bhava- he is practicing from midday till the evening Sandhya; and If he is in divya bhava – he is practicing all night?
Guruji: so then I’m in divya bhava
Q: but it is about one and the same practice – or it’s a different things?
Guruji: sadhana is sadhana! But this timing is connected with musical ragas also: Bhairav raga is in the morning( Ahir Bhairav); Bhairavi is in the midnight; so different ragas – in different time. Night time for practice is the best.
First thing is awareness.
Q: are You continuously aware of what is happening inside the body?
Guruji: initially; I don’t care anymore.
Q: how You live perceiving shunya and all the molecules on that level?
Guruji: ( laughing)I have learned to switch it off, yes. Initially you’re curious – so you keep observing; then you lose interest. With the time you get used to it that it is not so interesting anymore.
Q: what happens with prana and apana in the state of kevala kumbhaka?
Guruji: they are at peace
Q: from the inside the body experience: in Gorkhbodh it is said that in asana the spirit becomes happy?
Guruji: relaxed, yes. You will feel it. So many years of discussions – but we still have something to discuss.
Q: our consciousness also have the personality?
Guruji: of course
Q: does it look like carrier – like the physical body or not?
Guruji: very difficult to say; it’s not exactly carrying the physical body: it is carrying consciousness. As a flower
Q: so we can not only judge by the electrical charges?
Guruji: it is a different thing: electrical impulses are just connected with it. It is different from their activity.
Q: what about the access to subconsciousness: You feel that access to that part?
Guruji: you don’t feel, you actually know. Feelings are nothing.
Q: all that yogic siddhis which are described: they appeared only after you start perceiving all these things?
Guruji: like anima, mahima and others – yes.
Q: when You said You’re switching it off: You just switching on the basic mode for the body?
Guruji: it is there, but I’m not focus on them. You will understand so many things with that. Only I’ve been talking that the true vision is not depending on the reflection of the light.
Q: I remember You told to one practitioner that in the darkness you will have the very different development
Guruji: in the darkness exists something which we cannot perceive with the eyes
Q: when the people is talking about life force: it is about prana – it’s quantity and quality?
Guruji: about strength of the body and mind.
Q: but it’s connected somehow with prana?
Guruji: of course
Q: how? Someone has more prana or prana of better quality?
Guruji: more active prana.
Q: when we start to communicate with the spirit: it’s comparatively easy than to know prana and apana or to know Vasudeva in the heart?
Guruji: communication with the spirit is easier than understanding the essence of prana and apana. It’s like the first step.
Q: what about the name of the spirit? Is it the frequency of vibration in which he or she exists?
Guruji: no: your name and you are different things. Your existence doesn’t depend on your name.
Q: we talked about string theory: is it possible to see them?
Guruji: yes, it’s very much possible. If the person is physicist – he has gone through string theory; so his perception is with the string theory at the back of his mind. If some person will don’t know about it – he may see the same thing, but he will describe it in a different way.
Q: is it possible to see the gunas?
Guruji: first it is possible to feel them. When you will become aware – you will feel. Just a matter of awareness.
Q: before we discussed that everyone who was born and has blood inside – they are in rajoguna?
Guruji: that is my observation, yes. Only I’m saying this.
Q: yes; so mostly we will see rajoguna?
Guruji: mostly – yes; but even in rajoguna there are some degrees, some different touches.
Q: are they really of three colours? White, red and black?
Guruji: we can say – yes.
Q: we talked that the white is the combination of all colours; maybe the Void is also consists of all the colours?
Guruji: it is the carrier of all. It’s a colourless thing as it carries everything. It is the carrier of everything – including colours and light and whatever you want to say. But it’s the very different thing. When you become aware of the Void – it’s the very overwhelming experience.
When you want to know about yourself and discover who you are; when you go in the process – that creation, this creation; then when you will more evolve – you’ll realise that is your conditioning of the mind from different sources. When you will get over these conditionings – then maybe some glamour of what you really are will start. Which can not be so glamorous as you think. It’s just a conditioning of certain thought. Who we are – you will discover. Give it time!( smiling). Till then – it is just a romantic idea.
Be honest with yourself, keep developing your consciousness and your mind: one day you will realise, who you are. Then a different chapter will begin in your life.
Q: You said even we all are in rajoguna – but with the different touch of other gunas: on what it depends?
Guruji: it all ultimately goes back to the level of the consciousness and awareness. Whatever your level of consciousness is – your awareness will be like that. Gunas have their own consciousness and they are eternal things.
Q: psychological state or emotional state are not connected with gunas?
Guruji: gunas have the great impact on your psychological state.
Q: common opinion that of you feel very sleepy and lazy – it’s effect of tamoguna?
Guruji: it is too much simplification of it. Or you go and do something – oh, devil make me do that: devil is too busy to make you do idiotic things.
Q: what can be an example of a certain man living in rajoguna when he has a touch of sattveguna on him?
Guruji: practice of yoga is the only way. There is no other way.
Q: what is the tamoguna effect?
Guruji: it is described in Gita: you can see the food he eating and his living conditions.
Q: how we can subdivide and recognize where one guna ends and another starts?
Guruji: they are all mixed up. To realise them in their purest form takes very long tapas. Great development of mind.
Q: if we do some deed – we couldn’t say it’s pure rajasic or pure tamasic?
Guruji: no. the reflection of other gunas will remain.


