Darshans2023#05

HUMAN NATURE IS TO DOMINATE

Q: Guruji, what is Your opinion: what is the natural state for the human being – if he is not practicing? It exists some natural state of mind?

Guruji: every human being wants to dominate another human being. Their dominance define happiness. It is the basic nature of everybody.

That’s why ancient sages said: if you go against it – you will receive enlightenment.

Q: can we say that the basic nature is violence?

Guruji: dominance is the root cause of violence. When you lose desire to dominate anyone else then you will look yourself in introspection – and very different feeling will begin.

Q: but then everyone else around will try to dominate you, no?

Guruji: but you won’t care. Human beings will continue to act according their nature. You should not worry  too much about them.

When you have no desire to dominate anyone else your existence will be of very different kind; even person, whose nature is trying to dominate you – they will stop dominate you.

Maybe if you will not do something they will even not notice you. So you can go along and do whatever you want to do.

Q: so far experience is opposite

Guruji: no, because you’re trying that “I should not dominate”; but it is not removed from your mind and consciousness. If there is no chance of dominating anyone- every morning he will feel depressed( smiling). And if he has some chance of dominate others – even in a small way – he will wake up a happy person. You cannot simply discard this fact.

Q: how to overcome it?

Guruji: not overcome, you just remove it from your system.

Q: is it the state of vairagya?

Guruji: no, vairagya is when you’re trying to remove it from your system, because you understand it’s not a good thing. That maybe called vairagya. When you have removed it – means you have evolved to a certain level and finally you can sit down and think properly. Otherwise, whatever you will ponder or think, somehow it will be influenced by this feeling of dominance.

Q: until unless you reach immortality I think it’s very less possibility to reach this state?

Guruji: they don’t care for dominance, yes. But some people achieved it even before becoming immortal.

Q: they lived beyond 120 years?

Guruji: you are beyond vairagya then – after 120 years gone.

Q: only then you may have the real friendship?

Guruji: first with yourself: otherwise your attention will always be outwards, to whom you should dominate. Family members, friends, in society, in the work…and you’re not even removing: you’re evolved to that  level when you’re stop carrying for it. Then, without enough nourishment, it will go out.

The whole life purpose is to dominate.

I think we’re already covered it: see, you set a goal; suppose you want to win a gold medal in Olympics, this is your goal. And now you’re training very hard to achieve it. But on every step you take in training you keep worrying whether I will be able to win it or not – it will spoil your focus, concentration will go away, and you won’t be able to achieve that. Set a goal, do your best and forget about whether you will be able to reach it or not: that is the meaning there, it’s psychological thing. I think every great champion will understand this very easily.

Q: is it the state of non-duality – good or bad – when we will overcome the desire to dominate others?

Guruji: when you’re not even trying to dominate anyone – you will stop to judging them also. When you stop judging – all is good or as it is: you don’t even will say that it is good. When you say “it is good” means bad is already there. So you don’t care then.

Q: if we take the example of Jamadagni?

Guruji: he didn’t even lift a finger to save his life, when he was been killed.

Q: yes! But the situation came and the person who killed him – he wanted to dominate, he wasn’t disappear

Guruji: no, but his son made him disappear

Q: of course; but the situation came to Jamadagni?

Guruji: but he didn’t do anything! That means he was established there. It’s up to the son what he will do about his father – so he did.

Q: but being in even such higher state doesn’t mean that immediately all the person who want to dominate him will disappear?

Guruji: no, it started the chain of events. And remember, he was such a powerful being: simply by his blessing Parashurama became immortal. He was very powerful!

Q: that is amazing that such high being on such high level did nothing; he could destroy him easily! Maybe he wanted to die?

Guruji: he was not even having this desire( smiling). I think it’s very difficult to analyse Jamadagni rishi. He was one with the Universe already. It started the chain of events – that is for sure.

Q: but he was immortal?

Guruji: I think so; he chose it in a way. And he was also aware that Kartavirya Arjuna has received the boon from Dattatreya and he was also knowing that his son is better warrior than him; and it was his desire to die from the hand of better warrior than him: so he just created the situation.

It was the boon from Dattatreya which he asked: let me die by the hands of the warrior who is better than me. Only Parashurama was better than him. Remember, Kartavirya Arjuna fought Ravana: Ravana was defeated by him. He was the very mighty person – but Parashurama Ji was even mightier.

Q: another example: Dronacharya and Drupada?

Guruji: they were already friends, but Drupada rejected that friendship and insulted him

Q: if Dronacharya was in a higher state – why this situation came?

Guruji: the arrogance and ego of the person starts so many events. Dronacharya could kill him then and there – but he chose to teach him a lesson.

Just try to imagine the mentality of the warrior, who is the best disciple of Parashurama himself! And knows all celestial weapons and was the greatest warrior of that time. He was so poor that he was mixing flour in water and giving it to a son saying this is milk. He was doing nothing to make money.

That was Brahmanical thing in those days: brahmins will do nothing to make money; whatever will come on its own – they will accept. Such a warrior of this calibre was not doing it! But that insult: he was the first person who go to king and start teaching here.

Q: but he gave the kingdom to his son?

Guruji: half of it he gave back to Drupada saying: now we are equal, now we can be friends; but Drupada started a big conspiracy to kill him. Egoistic people are insulted very easily.

From inside you – you won’t have greed also, you won’t have jealousy also: you will have nothing, that things will disappear.

Q: in yourself; but in others?

Guruji: who cares for them?

Dronacharya was a warrior after all; when some person insults you – it’s nothing. But old friend insults you – it’s something.

YOGA AND ASANA

If you go by language – one of the meanings of the word “yoga” is “union”. But if you go by definition given by Patanjali – it’s different thing: chitta vritti nirodhah is called yoga. It’s a technical term as well as linguistic word.

Q: is it somehow stopping the activity of the brain?

Guruji: the main activity of your brain is your physical body: so you stop your every movement of your physical body- then you’re established in your own self. Read my commentary.

Q: but it doesn’t mean just establishing in asana?

Guruji: in yoga! Tada drishtuh swarupe avasthanam – when the seer is established in its own form. Who is seer? Your brain or mind is seer.

Q: how it feels after establishing in this state?

Guruji: if feelings will remain(smiling)

32 TEETH

Q: in some texts it is said that 32 granthis must be pierced and solved: is it different from the granthis we know?

Guruji: in yoga only three granthis we have. Maybe in tantra something more. Or it maybe the very different thing which they are trying to describe.

Q: but it exists something connected with number 32? What it can be?

Guruji: 32 teeth supposed to be every person must be having.

Q: You think they could be granthis which must be solved?

Guruji: teeth are directly connected with the brain. It’s a big possibility that they are connected with the teeth. Part of the skull, where brain lives. Nervous system are directly connected with brain. It is believed that a brahmin with all 32 teeth: if he will say something – it will come true. It’s a grassroots level saying.

WHO IS VASUDEVA?

Q: we discussed that god lives in the heart; and also that if we can reach the source – we can discard our own spirit. The source is in the heart; and You said that is Ishwar in the heart. What is the difference between Vasudeva and Ishwar in the heart? Are they one and the same?

Guruji: no, they are different.

Q: so there are two forces inside the heart?

Guruji: the spirit is serving inside. Ishwar is mentioned only in 18th chapter, when he is concluding Gita. Till then only spirit was discussed. Our spirit is like ghee in milk, it is everywhere. And the main source, which is even giving power to spirit is in our heart.

Q: then who is Vasudeva?

Guruji: the word “vasu” means “spirit”.

Q: so Vasudeva means our own spirit?

Guruji: yes! Consult Sanskrit dictionary: the word “vasu” means immortal spirit, jivatma.

BORN IN A GOOD FAMILY

7 geneartions, 7 dhatus, 7 chakras.

Q: what about lifespan of 120 years?

Guruji: that means after that astrological influence will stop.

Q: how the drinking of water from Ganges: could it remove that karmas of 7 generations?

Guruji: it will create some very positive decisions in your mind.

Q: but it will not remove all that past karmas?

Guruji: but the decisions you will follow and you will start working towards it.

Q: now in this incarnation karmas of 7 generations are following us?

Guruji: we are result of that.

Q: and in previous incarnation we also had this influence – 4 from mother’s side and 3 from father’s side; so are they influence us now?

Guruji: they are! Mostly people take birth in the same line. In India at least.

Q: it is because of certain ritual we are pulling to the same line?

Guruji: nobody is pulling: there is hierarchy – they are decided.

Q: why they are decided the same line, the same family?

Guruji: because of the karmic debt!

Q: then why there are rituals to invoke the certain spirit in the family?

Guruji: by the great tapas you’re able to invoke the very powerful spirit: a lineage will become very divine and powerful.

Q: so you can invoke not only previous generation but someone very ancient?

Guruji: very high, yes. If you’re strong enough to invoke.

If they take money from me – they will have to come back and pay. I have no family – so they will continue to be my servants in generations to come. Hypothetically it can happen( smiling)

HOW TO FIGHT BACK?

Q: how to deal with the person that always saying if you’re doing something – you’re doing not properly?

Guruji: face it! And if you think he’s not good – try to remove it. Without facing you cannot remove it. Go deep and find the reason, why this thing started.

Q: sometimes it’s just the feeling of the supremacy of the person, who wants to manipulate you?

Guruji: face that person; what you can do? If he is politician or mafia man – then do nothing. Otherwise stand up to him.

If somebody is trying to dominate you unnecessarily – stand up to him, face him! As they say in America – you can play the same game.

HOW TO ACHIEVE AWARENESS

Wherever will be the electrical impulses – some crackling will be heard. Wherever it will be a spark – some sound will be there.

Q: this sound somehow affects the mind?

Guruji: could be

Q: is it possible to reach the state in the practice to hear that crackling?

Guruji: when you will become aware -you will feel. Even when you’re relaxing – depending on your awareness. Back to bodybuilding: your muscles are not building when you’re exercising: you’re breaking the muscle tissue.

When you’re relaxing, resting – then they rebuilding. So when you’re relaxing – awareness will suddenly come.

72000 nadis are need to be purified: so the air will flow.

Q: is it possible to understand, where exactly you have the block in them?

Guruji: if you will become aware – why not?

GRANTHI AND EGO

Rumours are entertaining for the masses.

Q: question from Gorakhbodh: why if the granthis are not pierced – the feeling of ego is more? How they are connected?

Guruji: when you have so much dirt and problems inside – your mood will always remain bad. When you’re in a very keen atmosphere and smile – your mood will be good. The person, who is always full of problems – his mood will always remain bad. You cannot smile.

Q: but why they increase the feeling of ego?

Guruji: it is a false ego. Out of frustration the person is trying to attack others.

Vegetarian diet is recommended in yoga practice.

Q: so it’s not obligatory but it’s recommended?

Guruji: if you want to be a yogi – then all recommendations you should take seriously.

LOTUS ON THE WATER

Floating on water comes very easy for yogis because with pranayamas more nadis are cleaned and their body carries more vayu than an average person.

Whenever I will visit my Guru me and one of my gurubhais – Satyasaran Mukherjee – we will go to Harishchandra ghat: it was about 1,5- 2 kms from Chausati ghat where my Guru’s house was. With another gurubhai we remove our clothes, give him the clothes, jump into Ganges, put on padmasan and with flow float with the flow of the river. 1-2 kms – we reached Chausati ghat, come out, put on the clothes and go back to the Guru’s house.

It really look very impressive: not many people are able to do that. Even great swimmers: most of the boat men – they are great swimmers but they couldn’t float like this.

If you’re nor able to show off even small thing – you’re wasting your life, remember that!

IS IT ALLOWED TO INSTALL MURTI AT HOME

Q: how seriously we must take all symbols of Shiva Ji in yoga practice and will it support yoga practice? Today we saw Shivalingams and discussed – should we buy it and put somewhere?

Guruji: no, don’t take it like that. Shiva was the first Guru and the giver of yoga: so all yogis are respect Him. And He’s our God also. Don’t take it home.

Q: do we need some murti at home?

Guruji: nothing, keep Him in your heart and practice as best as you can.

Q: could it create some disturbances if something will be done wrong or if puja will be not correct?

Guruji: I think too great power you should not invite unnecessarily. You don’t know how to handle that.

Q: morning time I usually have the feeling of depression; is it influence of energy or some hormonal thing or what is it?

Guruji: if it is not a hangover – then you just try to do some physical exercise and listen to some music: it will pass.

BREATH AND THOUGHT PROCESSES

Q: we discussed that we are not the spirit, we are not the body – so we are our consciousness; if we make the breath our friend – how it will affect the consciousness?

Guruji: go back to Gorakhbodh: the jiva of mind is breath. Mind is working only with the vayu. It’s very important: consciousness is flowing because of the air, because we are breathing. If you will not make your breath your friend, friendly terms – then your mind will also not be in a friendly terms with you. They go together.

Q: so what is the cause and what is the sequence: we start to be friendly with the breath and it will affect the consciousness or…?

Guruji: we have no control over our mind because we don’t know it’s true nature or anything about it; but we’re breathing – so we have a very little control over our pattern of breathing. If you will turn with that – you may gain some deeper understanding of your breath and that in turn will connect you with your mind. And when you get enough access in your mind – reverse effect will take place: maybe your mind will be able to control your breath.

Q: but if you have some thoughts and remembering during practice – it will affect the breath?

Guruji: you’re already practicing – so some thoughts will definitely come! With enough time they will stop. Don’t pay attention – otherwise they will become more powerful.

KHECHARI AND BRAIN ACTIVITY

Q: could You elaborate a little bit: how khechari gives the access to subconsciousness?

Guruji: well, the electrical charge in your brain is far more active when you’re in khechari mudra. And the whole working of brain depends on electromagnetic charges. But in itself – it is nothing; it is just part of the practice, the important part.

Q: it means you will enter somehow your subconsciousness and see something there?

Guruji: it will make you see so many things not inside – outside as well.