DURATION of SAMADHI
Q: Guruji, it exists the opinion that for some people samdhi was lasting for 10 days or 15 days or even more; what is the conception of this- what’s Your opinion?
Guruji: it is a misconception.
Q: but it was the real samadhi, they really experienced that state?
Guruji: we don’t know that. It is for show, for public. Why they always come out in the public to demonstrate, why they don’t do it in the privacy of their own? It is for collecting money and for show to impress people. I know exactly, how to do it: why don’t they give it openly?
Q: but is it possible for 6 months or more?
Guruji: everything is possible.
Q: what was Your longest experience of samadhi?
Guruji: 7,5 hours. And that was not performing. Samadhi is the very mysterious thing.
Q: as I remember such a long condition we couldn’t name samadhi and it isn’t the pure result of the practice?
Guruji: yes, some herbs are involved, preparation is needed; and it’s always done for public demonstration.
Q: is it the expansion of the consciousness for such long period?
Guruji: nothing: it’s a coma-like state.
Q: I’ve heard about the monks who were buried for 40 days?
Guruji: yes, it impresses public. It was one man in Gwalior who demonstrated samadhi sitting on a bicycle. Nowadays I don’t here about them; before – in any festival they will come and they will ride a bicycle continuously for 7 days: they will eat, have breakfast, brush their teeth – and they continue to demonstrate it on the bicycle. He demonstrated for 7 days – then he went underground for 7 days, sitting on the bicycle. Money making is not that easy.
Q: it also must be involving of some herbs?
Guruji: undoubtedly! Public is always impressed. Why not – they need something, some entertainment.
Q: is it possible for unprepared body to be in samadhi?
Guruji: impossible: he will not survive.
Q: what do You think about the stories when Guru just put his thumb on a forehead of the disciple and granted him samadhi?
Guruji: but then Guru never put his thumb on unprepared disciple. Only Guru can judge. Without preparation – nothing. And if you inherit something – your self-confidence will not be good. If you earn something – your self-confidence and wisdom will be much-much more. That will remain. If you come to Arnold Schwarzenegger, do pranam to him and pray: please, put your hand on my head and make my body like yours: can he do that? But if you will request: I’m ready to do hard work, please, guide me – he will be able to do that. That difference will always remain. No shortcut to success.
Q: so the process of samadhi is not only meditational?
Guruji: no, it’s very difficult thing. And if you look up to the history on it – maybe 4-5 genuine cases you will find. Claims are many. And tell me: before Yogananda, who was discussing samadhi? No one. Only in our lineage it has been discussed so much.
Q: when You told about 7,5 hours samadhi and 1,5 hour experience – the effect is more or less the same?
Guruji: no, the physical effect is very different. 1,5 you can tolerate every day; 7,5 hours will take 3-4 days just to recover out of it. Your system will be very different, and it will need at least 4-5 days to come back to normal.
Q: but You can make it for 9 hours, 12 hours?
Guruji: I think, safe is only 7,5. If your condition will stop for more than 8 hours – the blood will change; so safe limit is 7,5. Because of no circulation after 8 hours blood will change, and these changes couldn’t be reverse. It is a death-like condition, which you’re inducing: so it is a risky thing.
Q: have You experimented with the herbs for that second state?
Guruji: I know about them – but it is useless; what for? You will remain in coma-like state, it’s nothing.
Q: with that experience of 7,5 hours You wanted to test Your abilities?
Guruji: see, when you’re young and cocky – you try these things. About 8 hours it was told by Babaji in 1988; I was not exactly going by 8 hours; because I became careful – so, 7,5 hours. Then , when I discuss with some doctors and others – then I came to know, that blood will not become normal after stopping of 8 hours. 1,5 hour – no problem. Stopping pulse any time – no problem, stopping your mental waves any time – no problem. 1,5 hour is perfect. And body will take the very long time to prepare for more: it doesn’t happen in few years – it takes the very long time.
Q: the blood became more thick after 8 hours?
Guruji: it will not be usable after that, person will not survive.
Q: Babaji told You about these 8 hours because he knew that You will definitely try?
Guruji: when I saw him first time, I have already experienced samadhi one time. Second phase started after 5 years: a gap of 5 years in between. And I think, he came because he was aware this boy has experienced samadhi. I don’t think without I would ever see him. And when you’re discussing higher things – that is the Guru’s duty to caution.
It is good to tell the stories. Every adventure is fantastic – but you must survive to tell the story, that’s the main point. Otherwise what’s the use to go through some adventure and you’re no more to tell the story?
Q: You’re the only Guru, who gave the exact time frame of being in samadhi
Guruji: nobody has ever giving in the history of mankind. I think we need to clear some confusions and to give new information, which may be very useful for future generations.
Q: the information is unique
Guruji: it is unique. Who is discussing samadhi to that level?
Q: because the common opinion is that samadhi not differs much from deep meditative state
Guruji: deep meditative state is nothing. Utopian libido of the impotent man( laughing). It takes years and years of very regular and most excellent optimum practice: then some improvement in your nervous system starts and body begin to be different; it’s a long journey. I will complete in 1st of October 40 years of almost very regular practice – and I’ve tried to do my best every day. 40 years I think for a common man – it’s a very long time.
Q: is it possible that after certain amount of samadhis Your blood will become different and You will be able to stay in samadhi for longer time?
Guruji: no, when Babaji said – this is the limit, that means this is the limit.
Q: but also Babaji was telling about 7,5 hours?
Guruji: yes, I didn’t ask him – I have no words to ask him anything. For this longer state the very intense preparation is needed even for public demonstration: you are prepared, clean like with shankhprakshalana and others; then you take that herb and it induces that death-like state. It depends on how much amount you’re ready to take, how much longer you want to demonstrate it; but you will need assistance all the time: anything may go wrong any time. All this is for making money.
Q: have You seen any case that after such long state the person became wise or write some book or teach something?
Guruji: no, never. And they were never seen again in public. There was a documented case of one – Haridas or something – in british time: he demonstrated this samadhi. He went into the pit – you may find this story, it is on record – then the crops of gram was sowed; and when it was cut he was dug up and he came out alive. But then he was caught: he runaway with a teenage girl. So he did not became wise. I’ve just told you: it is only for demonstration – so public money will come to you.
Q: maybe this underground method is just to pass some dangerous time for the yogi?
Guruji: no, it is only for making money: it is like magic.
Q: what about the case with Lahiri Mahasaya – when You told that his body is in the cave waiting? That was the same method?
Guruji: that’s why Babaji was there, taking care of that body – because anything can happen: some insect may enter or some snake may start living inside that body; very careful guarding is also necessary.
Q: but what about the case You told us when the workers find the yogi underground in Benares?
Guruji: it was his final samadhi: yogis are not dying – they enter samadhi. But we don’t know what happened with him and who was he. Babaji told me about 8 hours limit; maybe after some time he will come and extend this limit – we don’t know that. I don’t want to experiment until unless I get his “go ahead”. This new practice is maybe preparing for something bigger. Already 8 years are gone. The mental state changing – this much I can tell. With this practice fantastical discussions came – and in the first time in history Bhagavad Gita was explained from alchemical point of view. Prana is mercury, apana is sulfur: if you mix them together – elixir of immortality comes. Gita is looking like a manual for an immortal person: don’t make a house, don’t remain attached, continue on your journey!
GURUJI ON HOW TO TRAIN
I could do handstand and even I was doing push ups in it – 52 times.
Q: I believe, but my mind resist
Guruji: why? Can you do handstand?
Q: no. what should I do for it and what is the secret?
Guruji: conditioning is the main thing. Overall conditioning and overall strength. Who is a strong person? Criteria is: who can lift his bodyweight over the head. If you can lift your body over head – then you can also do handstand and some push ups. It’s a matter of strength. I’m shocked that I’m breaking so many prototypes.
Q: many people asked me: who is your trainer? And I said: Guruji!
Guruji: I made him to do 200 chin ups – and he did that. Every day – no break, no rest. If you cannot touch the limits of your physical body – how you can touch the limits of your mind? If such a gross thing you’re unable to do. See, I’m a yogi Guru: if I cannot do something – what is the use? Many disciples won’t imagine that I can sit in lotus, because in the day time I’m usually like that.
Q: is it important to have strong arms and shoulders?
Guruji: it will support your heart and lungs. Look at any heart patient or a person, suffering with high blood pressure: shoulders and arms you will find always weak. They are always looking down, never up. That’s why strong shoulders and arms are highly recommended – and overall fitness, top to bottom.
Q: so I need pull ups, push ups, squats and gym?
Guruji: start gym when you touch 500 push ups and 500 squats: that is your basic discipline. I was doing 1000 squats every day. Argue for you limitations and sure enough they are yours- from the Seagull Jonathan Livingstone.
NON-ATTACHMENT DEFINITION
Q: if the person starts to practice yoga and after some time some wishes or desires come to him: to have a good house, to have a good car and other material things; will they be the obstacles in the practice?
Guruji: why should they? We’re not making you a monk. Buy the most expensive house you can afford, live there and practice there. All such misunderstandings come from the sannyasis. But non-attachment is a different thing. If you’re so mature then even you have things – you will not remain so attached with them. Because they are just things.
BRAHMACHARYA DEFINITION
Q: but what about brahmacharya state for the health?
Guruji: oh my god, you’re still fixed on this topic. Well, I will give you the accurate answer: when you’re no more afraid of death – you will have no sexual instinct. This instinct is given by nature to preserve and continue your genetic line. So when you will overcome the fear of death – that instinct will stop bothering you. Reproduction will not be needed if you’re not afraid of death. Think on that! It is nature’s program for breeding only.
GURUJI ABOUT SAINTS
Q: are You the saint?
Guruji: no, I’m not saint. I’m a simple man.
Q: but we think You’re a saint.
Guruji: ok( smiling)maybe one day you will become a saint. I’ve never seen a saint with dogs.
Q: I also never see the Guru who is training. Once I’ve read the words of Paramahamsa Yogananda, who said that the sinner who doesn’t give up could be called the saint?
Guruji: yes, we can say about the saint this also. But I’m just a simple person. Grassroots level thing: if a person is claimed he is a saint – be sure, he’s not a saint. Only other people, who will look at him, and will see his life pattern and what is happening around him, they may say – he’s a saint, he’s a saintly person. But the person himself cannot claiming that.
And only catholic Christians has becoming saints after they are gone. But in India saint is a living person, who is living very pure life, devoted to any god which he want to please; and here we also say: true saint is who is able to talk with the god – only he can be the saint. In India we believe in that. And they are some saints in history and maybe contemporary also. India is the only country where you will see thousands of saints in the history – and they prove, that they are really saints.
HOW GURUJI IS DISAPPEARED
Q: I’ve read about Ramalinga – he was the saint and at the last of his life he was disappeared and doesn’t come back?
Guruji: I can teach you, how to make a person disappear. You lend him some money – and you will never see him again. Very simple!( smiling). One time a disappeared in front of him-
PANKAJ STORY
This happened in Benares, Sarnath; one day, afternoon time, Guruji called us in his room; we came – and he told us to sit there. Guruji sit on the bed in padmasan and said us: close your eyes! We closed our eyes; after 30 seconds or 1 minute we heard the Guruji’s voice: open your eyes! We opened our eyes and just see – where is Guruji? Voice is coming, but Guruji is not there. He asked us: do you see me? – no. – again close your eyes! We again closed the eyes. Then Guruji again told us: open! When we opened – Guruji was sitting in the same position. And it happened 2-3 times. We were very afraid – what happens? It was the real miracle.
Just shifting the attention from between your legs to your head is called brahmacharya.
You cannot change the weather: if the rain must come – it will come; but if you know the astrology – you can take the umbrella. The rain will come anyway – but umbrella you can take.
If nakshatra is affecting the person – of course it presiding deity also will affect, they are compliment each other.
PERFORMANCE
Whatever stage you will achieve – you will perform from that level. Every performance is on the stage; so whatever mental stage you will achieve – your personal performance be from that level, remember that!
You will start performing from that mental stage you will achieve: different types of forms will come into being; so maybe it will be starting of the different type of creation within the creation. Think on that!
