FIRST EXPERIENCE OF SAMADHI
Q: we discussed a lot about the changing of the mental level in the practice of Kriya, but what about virtues – what happens with them?
Guruji: they became very refined and stronger. They came to another level. After I begin to recover -thanks to weight training – another frustration started: because I couldn’t experience it again. It happened 5 years after – after meeting with Babaji it begin again. First experience – not necessary you will be able to repeat it again and again: because same mental state never be there. It happens when you’re not even expecting it. Then after every time you’re sitting – you’re expecting it: technically the mental frame is not the same.
Q: You feel confidence to experience it again?
Guruji: no, confidence never came. But when it started – then it is fine: then euphoria begin.
Q: what can You say after such great experiences: after thousands of samadhi – this euphoria is still there?
Guruji: euphoria is still here, yes( smiling)
Q: when Your first samadhi happened?
Guruji: I was practicing in the night and it happened.
Q: what exactly You practiced?
Guruji: in Yoni mudra it started.
Q: You were counting to which number?
Guruji: not counting; it was the very long holding of breath suddenly: I have no idea I could hold that long; and I even stop counting. I went to 400+ and then I forgot to count – then it happened. Something happens inside which we have no control over – initially.
Q: it was the state of kevala kumbhaka?
Guruji: not exactly: just breath seems unnecessarily.
Q: now if You want – You can not breathe?
Guruji: with every pranayama my pulse stopping, my mental waves going flat: I don’t know which state I’m in now. What machines are telling us. We have never come across any Kriya yogi – with every pranayama the pulse is stopping, mental waves going flat – then they starting again and again; we have never heard of it.
Q: even Lahiri Mahasaya didn’t write such experiences in his diaries?
Guruji: no, nothing. And I’m feeling normal.
Q: first You discover Your pulse stops – You were scary of it?
Guruji: no, more curious. It happens in every pranayama. It started within 3 months of receiving Kriya from my Guru. With Ilya we discovered that when I’m stopping the pulse – mental waves are also going flat: I was not aware of that then, no machine.
Q: what about Your second and third experiences of samadhi?
Guruji: I shifted to my farm and it started almost after 2 years of meeting with Babaji. First it happen – it was very sooth: I mean humanity was not there for miles, only wildlife was there- they never disturb you. Even their smell doesn’t disturb you. Then another thing took maybe less than a week, then 2-3 days, then daily, then anytime. And I still think: if I’ve not seen Babaji – I don’t think second phase would start ever. I would be living in the first memory most of the time, in heavy depression.
Q: what happened after meeting with him?
Guruji: it gave me the great confidence; and that Kriyas he taught me: they were difficult.
Q: after the second experience You had the firmly knowledge how it begins and how it goes?
Guruji: yes, and absolute opposite effect came: I became very strong physically, I was lifting men on one hand over the head, moving heavy mudgars 500 times every day – so it was the different effect on me physically, which more or less continues. Main effect was of meeting with Babaji.
Q: so You could not repeat the first experience easily?
Guruji: very heavy depression came, yes. Physically weak. To repeat it took me 5 years plus.
ENJOY LIFE WHILE YOU ARE HERE
Q: once You said that You remember the face and the voice: is it possible being in samadhi to find the person in the world?
Guruji: no, you will be beyond carrying for that person. It is possible: but only if it is important for you. Otherwise – useless exercise.
Q: mentality priorities?
Guruji: nothing. World changes: you’re no longer recognizing anything, you’re cognizing things. That’s the catch. Recognizing anything – and cognizing everything.
Q: but still you’re living life and communicate with people?
Guruji: it took time, yes. Not suddenly.
Q: and you need to wish for that – like desire?
Guruji: not exactly
Q: it was automatically process?
Guruji: no, it was my duty as a Guru to answer questions. What is the use of having so much stored up wisdom in your head if you’re not able to boast about it or discuss about it?
You see, most of the approaches are very negative – in religions and spirituality: leave everything! – these are saints’ statements. Not a single person you will find who is talking positively about this! I say: if life has been created – learn out of it: understand, what is life; live a life. You’re born – and you’re continuously thinking about heaven, which will come after you die. As long as we’re here – enjoy life!
BE LUCKY
All Gita they discussed about own spirit; but in 18th chapter he is saying – Ishwar lives in everybody’s heart.
Q: does spirit choose the costume of the body?
Guruji: no, it’s always given.
Q: You remember in online darshan Anton was asking You about the fascists concentration camp for the children: that You had the investigation about such a spirits – and they have no karma at all?
Guruji: no
Q: how it is possible? They came like in pure state without any past live karmas?
Guruji: they come to create a certain situation: so the people involved may done something – and it is the test also. They are catalytic agents – just create a situation.
Q: their previous karmas doesn’t matter at all?
Guruji: they are not because of karma: they are send there to create a special situation for others, not for themselves.
Q: how to judge if you see some unusual situation: that you’re just a catalytic effect or it’s your karmas from past lives? How to understand that it’s not your karmas?
Guruji: you maybe the catalyst. It comes very slowly.
Q: if you will travel by plane and it will be crushed?
Guruji: that is about collective karma.
Q: if it will be some tsunami or catastrophe?
Guruji: collective karma
Q: I know the case and the person who survived in air crush and all others were died: what is the reason for that?
Guruji: that means some very special thing is waiting for her. She’s very lucky. That luck thing reminded me about Napoleon Bonaparte: someone was talking that he is a brilliant general, strategist. Napoleon simply said: ok, I’m agree, he’s brilliant – but is he lucky also? Finally luck wins the war!
Q: what do You think: Lady Luck depends on past karmas? You could be born lucky?
Guruji: we don’t know exactly: principle is a mystery. It’s not easy to define, what is luck.
Q: wearing the stone of the 9th lord will help to avoid some situations?
Guruji: of course! To avoid something – it is different; but to be really lucky is something!( smiling)
Q: so it’s more for protection – not to invoke some extreme luck?
Guruji: it may happen if you’re lucky( smiling)
VARIOUS STUDENT QUESTIONS
Q: I was with my friend in Thailand; we decided to go for massage and they suggest us to measure the pulse; maybe because we were going fast – the pulse was very high, around 100 plus. They said – you cannot go with this. I asked, how much we need? And I just by will start to make it go down: it became 90, then 60, then 40, 20 – and I saw her face it became dark; and my friend said to me: stop – they will not allow us again. It was first time, I was not expecting that – but in few seconds it immediately start to go dramatically down.
Guruji: see – your power is increasing! Kriya yoga works. And you will keep discovering such extraordinary things in daily life.
Q: at what age Kriya yoga may be start to practiced?
Guruji: at least 15 years old: when the body is more or less complete.
Q: my son is now 12: maybe later I could teach him?
Guruji: no, you will have to bring him here. After he reach 15: it’s the serious matter, not exercise.
Q: how I will know where am I – if I decide to do 20736 pranayamas in one go?
Guruji: special way of counting will be taught – it will be very easy.
Q: or just to know it will be 12 days and 12 nights – and just relax and breathe?
Guruji: maybe you will be beyond counting( smiling). When you will be ready – you will be taught. I’m not suggesting it to you now.
Q: I will ask You every year
Guruji: don’t worry, I will tell you. Give it time: it takes time for you to develop.
YOUR KULA AND KULA DEVATA
Q: for white people protection comes only from the Guru because they have no Kula devata?
Guruji: because they don’t know about their roots: that has to be some Kula devata!
Q: You think so?
Guruji: it is always there! You can discover it.
Q: when Atit Ghat will take place?
Guruji: oh, much before that! Atit Ghat is too higher thing.
Q: could it be that we feel attachment to some deity – but Kula devata will be discovered as completely other one?
Guruji: attachment is the very different thing. And our discovery of the own roots is different thing. It is just knowledge – that yes, we belong to this clan.
Q: I remember You told once that one of Your disciples from America has Bhairav as Kula devata: it was his discovery?
Guruji: no, we discovered that. Out of curiosity.
Q: but because of the Soviet Union we now can enquire about grand-grand parents but no more than that, mostly the roots are lost?
Guruji: it is better this way: you can look up towards the future instead of always looking to the past.
Q: why in Gita it is said that even women could reach samadhi: they need more efforts to reach samadhi?
Guruji: they were discussing at the almost end of the vedic era: in vedic times social situation was very different. Yogis were always considering everybody as absolute equal; but not in vedic times. Krishna played a big role in ending of the vedic times, so he had to discuss that language.
Q: some of Your disciples – do they have Kali Ma as Kula devi?
Guruji: yes, Shandilya gotra and Shrivatsa gotra – they have Kali as Kula deity.
Q: they have some difference in appearance or character?
Guruji: they are more quiet people, yes. Face expressions are different, body structure is different.
Q: who are more aggressive by nature?
Guruji: Bharadwaj: they memory is always there. If someone has wronged your great grand-grandfather the story will continue in them, they will never forgive. Even in our family we were hearing so many stories.
Q: they were inimical with Drupad clan?
Guruji: no, they were gone already, Ashwatthaman made it sure.
CHARITY AND FAKE CHARITY
Q: what is Your opinion about help to other people?
Guruji: I can understand it in two ways: either you’re trying to start a business – so by helping people you will make a lot of money; or you’re not a businessman, but genuinely love to help others – those, who are in need. We need to be very clear about this.
Q: it must be the part of life?
Guruji: it will happen naturally: you don’t have to create any organization to help others – you can do it on personal level.
Q: but in “Autobiography of the Yogi”…
Guruji: it’s an exceptional case, extraordinary: you cannot generalize it. And remember: Steve Jobs was not keeping Pope’s photography in his ipad – he kept “Autobiography of the Yogi”
I GIVE A DREAM
Q: I think after samadhi our perception are different?
Guruji: much different. Already it is different: you compare yourself – before you started to practice Kriya yoga and after – different person.
Q: but You can give samadhi like Shaktipath, You have that power? I will give it for example for 5 people – and they effectiveness in life will grow?
Guruji: they’re already doing it( smiling). Instead of Shaktipath- I don’t give Shaktipath; I give them a dream: if you will do this – one day you will achieve samadhi and you will know everything; and they are working hard to fulfil that dream. It is as good as Shaktipath.
Q: so they have the way – but no need to make it easier? It’s like a car: you can walk, you can ride a bicycle – but Kriya yoga is a very good car, which make your development faster?
Guruji: it makes your development precise and exact.
Q: it’s already pretty fast for us?
Guruji: no, no need to force it. Too much speed – accidents will happen.
Q: but if we think, how the world lives – I think it needs much more balance. Too much wars…
Guruji: I think the world is getting refine and much better. If you will give a million dollars to a poor man
Q: then they will kill themselves with that money?
Guruji: no! you’re robbing them of their learning process how to make 1 million dollars. That learning is very important.
DO GOOD AND THROW IT INTO THE WATER
Q: when I’m thinking – to help them or not to help, should I tell them something? Is it correct – or about the doctor it’s not the situation?
Guruji: a doctor will work according to his own learning and teachings: they don’t move out of that line.
Q: if you’re doing something for someone for free – you’re creating the karmic connection?
Guruji: no. it is always better to help someone if he needs help.
Q: it doesn’t create the karmic knot?
Guruji: no, nothing. There is a famous story in “Arabian nights”of Sahi Hatim Tai: seven questions were asked to him – and he was travelling to find the answer. One of them was: do good, and throw it into water – forget about it! You just forget you’ve done some good and move on. Must read book!
Q: how we can understand that some actions are involving karmic effect and something – don’t?
Guruji: it is easy to understand: there is no remorse or nothing after you have done it and nobody’s after you – you did this( gesturing like holding someone’s collar)- fine, no problem.
Q: there is effect of good karma – or not karmic effect at all?
Guruji: good karma will make you feel good – that effect will be there.
KARMA – NO KARMA
Q: so any action which we take will have karmic effect?
Guruji: some effect, yes. If not karmic – then psychological effect will be there.
Q: is it possible to understand somehow – will this karmic effect start the chain of reactions?
Guruji: not always.
Q: we talked a lot about reactions – that’s why I think that better to do something without creating the chain reaction?
Guruji: yes, it is intelligent thing to do. You’re practicing Kriya yoga – you will know precisely and exactly.
Q: reaction and action: what has karmic effect? Or both of them?
Guruji: reaction is a karmic effect. Action – when first time you’re doing something, which may start a chain reaction. That’s why they say: don’t act, let it go.
Q: so no matter what we’re doing – we will have karmic effect of that?
Guruji: some of it will come, yes.
Q: if some situation come and we’re not reacting – for example just ignoring that person; does it create the karmic effect or not?
Guruji: for him – yes. For you – nothing. It will just rebound from you.
Q: so better just ignore the situation – then no karmic effect will come?
Guruji: you have to judge: whether situation is worthy to consideration and you have to act on it; it will be your decision: not to act or to act. That is reaction enough- if you’re considering something, that is enough reaction.
Q: so even if we decide to do nothing?
Guruji: it is a reaction!
Q: will it have karmic effect?
Guruji: not always.
Q: so until unless we reach the level of Atit Ghat, we will not understand?
Guruji: no, you just read Gita: if you’re able to tolerate your things inside instead of expressing them – no karma will touch you. And it will give you a great chance to ponder on certain things, meditate on them, think on them. And your own wisdom will increase.
Q: it’s like You were saying about the anger which can be transformed into great power?
Guruji: like coal becomes a diamond.
Q: could this immense power of anger be transformed in something very good and positive?
Guruji: yes. I will tell you: I had one friend- he was the very angry person but a very good friend. Then I suggested him something and he was able to overcome his anger. Whenever he will be angry: I told him to go to the gym and workout twice more – that was positive use of anger. He became very quiet and very strong as a result.
Q: in my observation – if something happen and I feel anger, I’m trying to collect it to the evening practice. And after practice I feel that something really changed: the situation is the same – but no more anger remains: what happen this way?
Guruji: it neutralised! You used your anger very positively and it gave you more energy for practice. You became stronger.
Q: what happens in astral plane in that case?
Guruji: if you’re able to make it a very positive force – your own power will increase. Like if you’re able convert a coal into diamond – your wealth will increase.
Q: if you understand that the situation requires your answer and you cannot leave it?
Guruji: never run away from the situation, face it!
Q: it’s better than transform your emotions into something good?
Guruji: no, if there is the situation – face it!
Q: but it’s better to act without any anger?
Guruji: you see, that is not possible: if the situation demands – the anger will be there. But you should be mature enough to do the right thing, even if you are angry. Even though – it is a difficult thing. But if the protection is there – even the adverse situations will become positive.
Q: if you feel that in the anger you do something wrong?
Guruji: don’t feel, support yourself. Here I think it was a good training from Babaji and Giriraj Ji: I faced so many different situations. And if you will not face the situation – you will stamped as a coward all your life. So I faced them all, never ran away from the fight or something. Now I’m look back and I’m happy with that. The whole lineage is behind you, Shiva’s blessings with us: we shouldn’t be afraid of anything.
