KHECHARI MUDRA AND HASTA MUDRAS
Yoga was given by Shiva Himself.
Q: so he was aware of our hidden possibilities?
Guruji: he gave it – so we can assume that He is knowing everything. And He was not a yoga instructor.
Q: this information about cutting under the tongue: it was done deliberately?
Guruji: maybe; Gorakhnath writes nothing about it.
Q: it exists the difference between tongue in khechari and tongue pressing different parts of the palate?
Guruji: tongue should be inside – otherwise it’s not khechari.
Q: what effect will be if the person start to practice pressing the upper teeth?
Guruji: nothing
Q: what about practice of mudras – on fingers – while doing practice?
Guruji: if you’re doing some tantric rituals they may work; otherwise – nothing. There is only one mudra which has direct effect: it involves middle finger. That mudra is universal and gives immediate result. Show it to the policeman and you will know the results.
Q: the position of the fingers used to invoke the particular deity?
Guruji: no, it affects your own currents in your nerves. That current will help to create the different state of mind.
Q: when my whole body is vibrating – it’s because of my mind vibrations or it’s something else?
Guruji: this is the effect of the company(smiling). Flow of energy is different here.
AWAKENING THE KUNDALINI
Q: what books – except Yours of course – You can recommend which can support and inspire in practice?
Guruji: highly recommended is Yoga Vasishtha. Shrimad Bhagavatam also.
Q: do You recommend rereading the books after some development in practice?
Guruji: you continuously keep on reading: understanding will develop slowly
Q: kag Bhusundi saw pralaya or tandava 6 times: but where he was when there was no creation?
Guruji: this is own sankalpa: he created his own place and was sitting there. “by understanding and knowing the essence of Prana and Apana I became immortal”- it’s his words. So carry on!
Q: now the topic of the rising of Kundalini is discussed so much; is it possible to understand that it’s real rising of Kundalini by some warmth in the spine – and maybe by some other feelings?
Guruji: when mafia killer put gun on your head – your spine itched; it is not Kundalini rising – it’s just a feeling of fear. It’s a common talk – but I will tell you with all honesty and good will: awakening happens once or twice in a thousand years. And the person will become immortal. Or at least he will live for centuries.
Ride a heavy motorcycle: you will feel vibration in your spine also. It is as good as awakening of Kundalini(smiling). It’s a serious thing: every biker has more confidence than a person who cannot ride a bike. The vibrations do something(smiling). After several years we discuss the rising of Kundalini – again.
Q: nowadays there are many classes on awakening the Kundalini, and they are very popular – so
Guruji: that is good: they will remain busy. And some sensation will come – or they will imagine there is some sensation.
Q: but will it lead to something – if someone will feel sensation in the spinal cord?
Guruji: if the consciousness is not developing, if the quality of life is not improving, if confidence is not getting better, if your life in general is not getting better, if you’re not becoming more healthier and better looking and more shapely – than it is just imagination.
You will be a super person: you will stand out in 10000 people.
Q: it is not like a dream experience which you can forget after some time?
Guruji: no
Q: but that small things which people describes – is it something else they experience?
Guruji: they are concentrating on their spine, so-called chakras: some sensation you will feel – or imagine. Not only in your spinal cord: if you will concentrate on your finger – you will feel some sensation there. That means – you’re becoming aware of that.
TIBETAN PRACTICES
Q: what do You think about the Tibetan technic of tumo – when the heat of the body is increasing and they could tolerate any frost?
Guruji: see, most of the technics which are described in Tibetan books – secret talked in Tibetan yoga or even mentioned – the technics are very similar to what we are practicing. Not too big difference. Tumo, tuva – they are Tibetan names given what they learn from India. In Kriya yoga they are all part of it.
Q: six yogas of Naropa also?
Guruji: yes, Tilopa and Naropa: Marpa learned and then gave it to his disciples.
Q: so the technics are the same as in Kriya?
Guruji: there have been selected and tibetanised there – but the basic principles remain the same. But I see now – they may be not done exactly as they are written. I have seen maybe 200 tibetan lamas: they were not looking if they know these technics or they are practicing them. Milarepa was the real master and maybe some lamas; after that we don’t see anymore. Not many lamas are leading the lifestyle of Milarepa. they possess their talk: they are called “repas”. Maybe it’s no longer there.
Q: but Milarepa started his career as a warlock or magician?
Guruji: as a magician: he killed all his enemies and then; his life is worth reading.
LUCID DREAMING
Q: what do You think about the yoga of the dreamworld or yoga of the dreams: when you’re concentrating on a dreams you see during night time and doing something with it?
Guruji: if you’re developed enough to enter the Dreamworld consciously – that means you’re able to enter the astral world consciously. It’s a big thing. But it’s a very risky thing – we’ve already discussed that.
They may make you a slave – and you will never wake up from your sleep. Maybe someone else will enter the body and will wake up: all these possibilities are open. This is very utopian thought that all spirits there are waiting to help you, everything is rosy and full of love: it sounds very good but sadly it is not exactly true.
Somebody said – somewhere in a novel: more murders have committed at the name of love rather than the name of hate. So we have to be very careful, using this word.
Q: so You don’t recommend to experiment with these technics?
Guruji: if you’re powerful enough – you will know. If you’re not powerful enough – you will be depending on just luck, which may not support you in the time of need.
When you were coming to see me, you prepared: you bought a ticket, you have a passport, you do some preparation – then you arrive; you simply not start walking towards Govardhan.
Keep your head very high – but let your feet remain firmly on the ground. Instead of imagining about dreamworld let’s imagine awakening of Kundalini(laughing)
HOW TO BECOME A WISE?
Patanjali was not saying anything that you will become aware of your physical body inside. But the story with bacteria was good: every profit is predicting doom’s day – even bacteria profit (see topic: In-Bodily Experience). I don’t know, why every profit just predicting doom’s day, end of the world; why they not predicting positive things: that every human being will live in good friendship and they will all enjoy life? Only end of the world – this is too much.
Only because you make some name as an instructor, you’re using the name “ashtanga yoga” and you have read Yoga Sutras doesn’t make you a wise man.
Q: but as I see most of the terms – even in ayurveda or jyotish – are explained by You in a very different way – the right way?
Guruji: of course, yes.
Q: and this brilliant comment on 4 purusharthas? No one has commented like that!
Guruji: in fact, nobody has commented like that – in any commentary whatever is there. This standard was common in that time.
अहं वचैश्वानरो भयूविा प्राशणनां दषेहमाशश्तः । प्राणापानसमायक्
ahaṁvaiśvānarōbhūtvā
I assume the form of the fire of digestion in the embodiment of creatures and digest four kinds of foods that contain prana and apana.
WHAT IS SELF-REALIZATION?
Q: is it possible to see the realization of the person in the chart?
Guruji: probability will be there: you cannot say 100% that he will be realized.
Q: but the possibilities You will see?
Guruji: only the spiritual possibilities -about moksha and something like that. Self-realization is absolutely different phenomena.
Q: could we have a little understanding seeing the mahadasha of the person?
Guruji: they say: he will become very religious, he will become highly spiritual; but there is no planetary situation which will tell us that he will become the self-realised person. It is assumed, that if he’s becoming highly spiritual then there is a chance of realization as well. But now I think: realization is too bigger thing.
Seeing god is nothing compare to self-realization.
We have already discussed, what is realization: in this world of illusion, you make your presence real: that is realization. That means you’re no longer a part of imagination of someone else.
Q: if we make ourselves real: our mind will be more powerful than the creator’s?
Guruji: no, we cannot compare; but your existence will become real. You will come out of his imagination. That’s a main point.
This is what is written in Shiva Sutras: that the siddha has the absolutely independent nature: because he is no longer part of someone’s imagination. He maybe creator of anything. It’s too bigger thing – self- realization! But whatever: we love to talk about it and it remains in discussions – spiritual and religious discussions; maybe some day someone…even this is not a less thing – that people keep on discussing on it.
Q: many perceives the self-realization like a training of personal development?
Guruji: but realization has millions of the steps! One time one sadhu was discussing self-realization, and I asked him: suppose you’re on the road and a woman comes and slaps you; how you will categorise it? He was silent and I said: this is again part of your self-realization! You will know exactly how you will feel if woman will slap you on the road! It is part of your self-realization. Self-realization goes a very long way. Small waves in life, small things in life: you keep realizing yourself, you keep realizing your different angles of your own nature. It’s a very-very wide thing.
Q: could the nature be changed with the time?
Guruji: how much we know about nature? You will be more in tune with your own nature with time.
Q: even facing the opposite things?
Guruji: of course. In fact, when you’re facing some strong opposition: in that moment you’re strongly aware of your own self. It will make you even more aware.
Q: for creator it’s not good – if somebody will wake up and realised himself?
Guruji: he has never intervened – except in our religious books. He beyond carrying I think.
Q: what are his functions after creating the creation?
Guruji: what we do when we create a game and we start to play? We enjoy it! Enjoying all the way.
Q: many people think that samadhi is just the high concentration?
Guruji: ok, good for them! It’s all luck. Hard work is there, but luck plays a major role.
Q: back to the topic of being real: our reality is only our own imagination?
Guruji: your own consciousness and your own mind! Imagination is just an expression.
This is another thing which you become conscious: how you’re reacting. It is just another degree of consciousness.
BRAHMA IS MIND
Q: we discussed that the body of immortal on the certain level becomes like electrical body?
Guruji: they say brahma vidya brahmaiva bhavati: the knower of brahma become Brahma himself. Brahma means mind. And a work of mind is pure electromagnetic charges: so if you become like mind – your body will be of only electromagnetic currents. That’s very obvious observation.
Q: You also described our thoughts like electromagnetic charges?
Guruji: yes, charges and cracklings
Q: if we take general physics – we could manage the electricity somehow: it could be in a stream or…
Guruji: that’s what we’re trying to do: to manage the electricity in your brain, increase the charge – so you will have more awareness. Your generator will work on a bigger performance.
Q: could we somehow attend our attempts with the magnetic field?
Guruji: it’s a same thing: electromagnetic currents – they go together inside the body.
When the charges increasing in your brain – your awareness increasing with the same proportion. Because electrical charges are more – that’s why body seems to be more dry than before; because of the currents are increasing. That’s a transformation.
Q: could we say that the thoughts which we have now – that they are like the result of some outer influence?
Guruji: mostly it is; we’re just giving reaction, we’re not aware about our own big thoughts. Everything is just a reaction to the family, to the society, to situation.
Q: so we can say that in the beginning thoughts are not generated by us?
Guruji: we need to discover it inside. It is so much under the layers of our reactions and conditioning; it is very great thing to find it.
Q: so it’s not the one person, who applies the thoughts to our mind?
Guruji: all thoughts are implanted from outside influence.
Q: but they are from different sources?
Guruji: that’s why you need to go deep inside you and discover.
I’ve written in “Putnik” that you go deep, dive in the ocean of consciousness and find a pulse of your own emotion.
Q: from the position of inside the body experience: could You said that it’s a different activity when the thought is pure?
Guruji: when you’re becoming aware of the Void and slowly-slowly you discover: the Void is conscious; then you also discover: Void is the ocean of consciousness and you’re just one wave of it. All reactions, all conditioning – they are left far behind and you’re somewhere else. When you’re entering the sea there are so many waves, very difficult to enter; but when you have gone deeper – no waves.
Q: when we will understand we’re one wave: our individuality will remain? We will not merge with the ocean?
Guruji: still the existence of wave will remain as individual. You will be in the both worlds at the same time.
Q: on the certain level of development yogi starts to consume amrita?
Guruji: it need to form first inside the brain.
Q: will it depend on the quality of the thoughts of the yogi, who is able to produce it?
Guruji: not depend on the thought: on the power of yoga practice: it is a result. Not will propel you to keep on practicing to the best of your abilities; but this is the result of very heightened, most excellent practice.
Q: so there is no possibility that something could turn amrita into poison?
Guruji: no. it will be created when the body is ready to tolerate. Don’t you think brain is responsible for our growing, becoming young and getting older also? It is stand to reason that some spiritual hormone may be created in the brain, which will stabilize the body for centuries?
Q: I’m asking that for example sudden blast of adrenaline will create the different chemical reaction and will spoil all the result?
Guruji: accidentally it will never happen. Not possible.
Amrita will be assimilated in the body. “amrita” literally means “deathless”. What we read in India, in indian shastras, – nowhere else in the world you will find such great information and great things. Only in our mythology lifespan is thousands of years, tapas for thousands of years: nowhere else it is even discussed.
Q: in other mythologies it could be done only by some magic or by finding some artifact like the fountain of youth.
Guruji: ojas is collected in the body – then it’s collected in the heart. It is absorbing in the heart muscles.
Q: and ojas doesn’t spread again all over the body?
Guruji: no, it remain concentrated in the heart.
Q: is it visible on the person- when he has ojas in the heart?
Guruji: he will be full of valour and so many other things; they will say – ojasvi: he is full of ojas – that’s why he is so extraordinary.
Q: if amrita will come to the heart which have no ojas?
Guruji: it will not even develop! No chance. Maybe the next step of ojas is amrita.
KNOWLEDGE OF THE EGO IS NOT THE WAY TO GOD
Q: very often comes the situation that when the person received Kriya yoga practice – he starts to feel superior towards others because he got this practice and they don’t?
Guruji: but he should be also intelligent enough not to show it!
Q: on one side he is so proud of it
Guruji: why not? You should be proud! Of course!
Q:…but on the other side ego will go high?
Guruji: ego will go to sublime heights, it becomes very refined. False ego – we don’t recommend. Accept the reality( smiling)
Q: the good ego will go to sublime heights?
Guruji: from religious point of view – because they are ought to control you – they will say: don’t do anything, remain non- violent, without ego: so you will be very easy to control. But as you’re yogi – your individuality will become very strong. I’m not a priest and you’re also not searching for god. If you’re searching – then go to priests, pandits, mullas: they are experts to show you the path how to reach god.
Q: so ego is not the obstacle for the development and achievement?
Guruji: it may become a driving force for all your development. If there is no ego – for what you’re trying to achieve anything? You will live just a vegetable type of life.
Q: mostly our ego relates to the person?
Guruji: ego is connected directly with your conditioning; your exposure to your family, society, job place; it develops because of your conditioning. Enhanced it is called “false ego”. Very rarely somebody discover its true form. Maybe only yogis discover.
Your feeling of being that “I am”
Q: without any attachment?
Guruji: without any impression of the conditioning. That dialogue from some philosopher is good: you are? – yes, I am! – how? I think therefore I am.
Q: yes, Rene Descartes.
Guruji: yes. Accept your thought or electrical body maybe one and the same.
