Darshans2024#06

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APHORISM

What is destiny? This is an expression of life! By the life, for the life! Remember that!

BE CAREFUL WITH A YOGI

When Patashurama  was directed by Samwart risi to go to the Dattatreya, He told him this.

That a King, a Yogi, water and fire, have the same nature, and you have to remain very careful. Otherwise your life is gone.

In one instance.

Fire goes out control  – you are no more. Water goes out of control  – you are no more. A king is irritated with you  off with his head. And if you are somehow irritated a Yogi – nature will take care of You.

So remain careful with this four.

GURUJI’S MEETING WITH MATSYENDRANATH

When  I was seeing Matsyendranath face to face  in Mahur Gadh, in that very small room, I try to bow down in front of Him. He stopped me. Patting on my head, and simply said so sweetly:

all Yogi are equal or same!

And then He gestured me to sit down. He sat down on the floor. And the conversation begin.

But He called me a Yogi! First time  somebody call me a Yogi! That is amazing … whatever you take it. As a certification, confirmation or what. Nobody has called me before a Yogi. Not even Ganganath.

When He told me about kundals, He simply showed His own kundals, gesturing like this. Look at this, and you also have kundals

made like this, with rhinoceros horn. That was it.

In one sentence he finished it

HOW TO HELP THE ANCESTORS ?

Q: How they can help their ancestors or maybe it exists some simple rituals for them in pitri tarpana, to do something.

Guruji: Go to their grave , live some tasty food there, and pour a bottle of a scotch.

Q: Tasty food must be white one or sweet one  or…

Guruji: Any kind …

Q: If they are buried, but if they are cremated ?

Guruji: Then just offer it to some same age person.

Q: In pitri tarpana time? Or any time?

Guruji: Any time!

Q: And, how often?

Guruji: Maybe once or twice a year is enough.

Q: On new moon or no matter?

Guruji: New moon is better.  This is good, people are becoming more …

Q: Yes they read your darshans, so they ask the questions. Some of them even are sensitive

they are even feel the presence, like Grand babushkas or someone.

Guruji: So the best thing is to feed a person, who is also more less of the same age group. And lead her respectfully, or him whatever they choose to eat, remembering their ancestor.  And even give them some money after that. That will help greatly. Some clothes also if they need it.

LIBERATION FROM WHAT?

Q: The immerged after liberation of it, if you are liberated from something . It’s like beyond, I mean…

Guruji: After you are liberated from something

than only you can look back and understand what you are liberated from?

Q: what sublime state is establish than? After liberation …

Guruji: Go back to Yoga Sutras also: After achieving everything, then even  the satisfaction you go beyond of achieving something . That is the technical point.

WHAT IS PURE CONSCIOUSNESS?

Your mind is working with electromagnetic currents, charges, so when your subconscious is wake up , charge will became tremendous and yore all body will transform into electrical body. That will be pure  consciousness.

And no past will remain, no future will remain you will be establish in the moment of the present, forever. And, moment of present was there in the past also and it will remain in the future also . So when you’re establish in the moment of the present  – you are everywhere. Wherever you will focus – you will experience that .  It is such a simple thing

STHIRA-SUKHAM ASANAM

Earth herself is not steady, She is moving

at a very breakneck speed and moving around a Sun at the same time. Sthira-Sukham Asanam is simply means to make your body steady enough, so  the spirit inside will feel relaxed. That is steadiness.

MENTIONING OF YOGA IN THE BIBLE

GENESIS 2:7 GOD CREATE MAN FROM THE DUST

Guruji: I’ve been asked  that if christianity mentions Yoga of any type in Bible or something. Because I am not a christian so I can have an objective point of  view.

And I can quote one thing from Bible! They say: out of the dust he created, and into his nostrils He breathed the breath of life.

It simply tells me, that breath which GOD granted to the creation which he did from the dust – Breath is directly connected with GOD. Breath is the only power or only link which is connecting you directly to the GOD.

So if you will study your breath, go deeper into it, I am sure it will take you to the GOD himself. Because, breath coming from HIM, remember that.

MATTHEW 6:22-23 IF THEREFORE THINE EYE BE SINGLE…

Guruji: Somewhere, I don’t remember where :  if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light….

(Matthew 6:22-23 King James Version (KJV)

The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!)

maybe it is a direct descriptors Of Yoni mudra, very much possible

Genesis 9:2,3

(2 The fear and dread of you will fall on all the beasts of the earth, and on all the birds in the sky, on every creature that moves along the ground, and on all the fish in the sea; they are given into your hands. 3 Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you.)

Guruji: Well, I’m not much scholar in Bible or Christianity , But, somebody was

discussing with me.

And GOD created man and animals as his food !

But I will be very happy if it was written: that GOD created MAN  and ANIMALS and their food.

I will be very happy with this line.

And two legendary actors wеre acting in it…

Movies name was “Sadhu and Shaytan”. I love that movie. Specially the end!!!

Kishore Kumar is the greatest singer. He see that hero Mahmud, is in love with his sister, and he ask him…haaaaaa!!! And he answer – hmumhmmmm…

And marriage is done ! Haaaaa…hmmmmmm…

I mean it’s classic seeing of this two legends. I’m a fan of them!

HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA

KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE

HARE RAMA HARE RAMA

RAMA RAMA HARE HARE

Q: from where mantra Hare Krishna has appeared?

Guruji: everybody knows: it’s traditional mantra, which started by Chaitanya Mahaprabhu nearly 500 years back.

Q: but from where it came to him?

Guruji: that is a mystery: he went to Gaya to make rituals for his father and came back dancing and singing. He got it from there.

Q: but before Chaitanya Mahaprabhu this mantra existed somewhere?

Guruji: no, it was not known.

Q: is it true that Shrila Prabhupada was the secret devotee of Kali and after his death Her small murti was found on altar in his room?

Guruji: he was from Bengal: here it’s a common thing there. All Bengalis see no difference between Krishna and Kali. Hinduism is a very complicated religion.

After his retirement he ( Shrila Prabhupada ) went to USA, collected some money – some people supported him; but they had no money – they were singing bhajans and living in the rented room: the landowner threw him out so he just went to the park – because he had no money, nothing. What should they do?

So they begin to sing Hare Rama, Hare Krishna in the park. When you’re facing very big existing problem, when your very existence may depend on that – the real devotion comes. They were immerse in the singing; eyes were closed and they don’t know how long they continued to sing – maybe few hours.

When he opened his eyes – they were hundreds of people surrounding him – and they were humming with him. From there they journey started in US. I must say, that definitely blessings and kripa of Shri Krishna was on him. Otherwise the penniless person just old retired person: with what he went to US?

Only Hare Rama, Hare Krishna! And the rest is history. It is impossible story! Without grace of god, Krishna, this lilacannot happen. It is very easy to criticize anybody, but I see – in almost every country they have started pure vegetarian restaurants and many-many people became vegetarians! Many hippies left their drugs and became devotees. He started something very big. As he started when every single penny was gone from him, his landlord has threw him out; so I will say – he has His grace. There is no doubt about it.

And those, who feel jealous of his success and his fame and how big his organization became – they keep criticising everybody, not only Shrila Prabhupada. He had the real grace from Shri Krishna, he started from zero level and see: whole world knows about him. Without grace – it is not possible.

Q: from Gorakhbodh: when yogi could experience the merging of prana and apana and their going to sushumna: it will be not the individual experience but the real perception of truth?

Guruji: it will be real perception of truth. And he will know everybody’s state of prana also – because prana is omnipotent, everywhere.

Q: why it’s not the individual experience?

Guruji: it will start as an individual experience.

After his retirement he ( Shrila Prabhupada ) went to USA, collected some money – some people supported him; but they had no money – they were singing bhajans and living in the rented room: the landowner threw him out so he just went to the park – because he had no money, nothing. What should they do?

So they begin to sing Hare Rama, Hare Krishna in the park. When you’re facing very big existing problem, when your very existence may depend on that – the real devotion comes. They were immerse in the singing; eyes were closed and they don’t know how long they continued to sing – maybe few hours.

When he opened his eyes – they were hundreds of people surrounding him – and they were humming with him. From there they journey started in US. I must say, that definitely blessings and kripa of Shri Krishna was on him. Otherwise the penniless person just old retired person: with what he went to US?

Only Hare Rama, Hare Krishna! And the rest is history. It is impossible story! Without grace of god, Krishna, this lilacannot happen. It is very easy to criticize anybody, but I see – in almost every country they have started pure vegetarian restaurants and many-many people became vegetarians! Many hippies left their drugs and became devotees. He started something very big. As he started when every single penny was gone from him, his landlord has threw him out; so I will say – he has His grace. There is no doubt about it.

And those, who feel jealous of his success and his fame and how big his organization became – they keep criticising everybody, not only Shrila Prabhupada. He had the real grace from Shri Krishna, he started from zero level and see: whole world knows about him. Without grace – it is not possible.

Shrila Prabhupada was not exactly peddling yoga or meditation or relaxation, he had one-point program: become devotee of Radha and Krishna. And millions became( smiling). I’m from grassroots level point of view: if someone is meditating and the villager will look at him – he will just ignore him.

And if there is some bhajan going on  – he will sit down there and will sing: because after bhajan prasad will be coming. When a person is just meditating – he will give you nothing. That also is very important thing – prasadam! To create the atmosphere of festivity – it’s not so easy thing to do. Hundreds of people are singing and dancing and having prasadam after that in the name of Shri Krishna – that is something. Hats off to Shrila Prabhupada!

Three persons went to USA: and their names became the legends of their time. Swami Vivekananda – he is a legend; then Yogananda Paramahamsa: everybody knows him – his organization; and he was the key person, introduced Kriya yoga and lineage of Gurus and Babaji to the whole world. Then third Bengali – Shrila Prabhupada went: and people started to be vegetarians and became to be devotees of Shri Krishna and Radha. This is fantastic story!

Q; but nevertheless America is going down and destroying itself

Guruji: well, this is the destiny of every empire: all of them came to the end. Nothing lasts forever. Maybe ShrilaPrabhupada was really full of devotion; Swami Vivekananda had the grace of his Guru – Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and Goddess Kali; Yogananda Paramahamsa had also blessing from Babaji and Kali was also blessing him. ShrilaPrabhupada had direct grace from Krishna and Radha – I have no doubt about it. He was not having six packs or biceps like Arnold – but look, what he did. And he did it after his retirement: that is amazing – he was very old, when he went there. He was living in Vrindavan and he came back to Vrindavan and died in Mathura. His hut is still there: ISCKON people are maintaining that. I’ve visited it – it’s a good place.

Q: he died in awful condition, as I remember?

Guruji: he died remembering Krishna – that is enough. We have saying: if your body is not healthy – no matter, your mind should remain healthy.

Q; I think it’s a big problem – never seen like that.

Guruji: average person keep criticising everyone – from god to their father and every politician: they keep on criticising everybody.

But it requires a very open-minded person and hard-working person, who is trying to achieve something in life and who achieved: only he can appreciate what otherperson before he becoming great – what he went through. We need to learn from them and we have to respect them also. Simplest thing is to criticise god or your prime minister or your president; but I’ve never ever heard anybody criticising mafia boss. I think they are all legends: Swami Vivekananda, Yogananda Paramahamsa and Shrila Prabhupada. I don’t think anyone else became that famous or created such big evolutionary thing.

Q: but Paramahamsa Yogananda started from very high level?

Guruji: he was born in the family of disciples of LahiriMahasaya, he was surrounded by disciples – he was exposed to Kriya Yoga from early childhood.

Q: he started from the very high point – but he created an organization?

Guruji: if you will not create organization – Americans will not even listen to you. Maybe it was for that: while in Rome – dress like romans do; so while in America – he did like Americans do.

Prabhupada was from Vaishnav family – Gaudia Vaishnav he was already; then he became a monk after his retirement; he was married and had children also. Then he became a sannyasi and devoted all energy to whatever purpose he want – and he was successful.

Q: and Vivekananda?

Guruji: he died very early – 39 years of age. His organization is the biggest in India: Ramakrishna’s mission. They created fantastic schools and hospitals – maybe thousands of them. Everybody may not be hankering to see god face to face – but everybody needs education and help, when they are sick; so it’s a big service started and others are also doing it.

Q: why they moved to the United States but not to Europe?

Guruji: because America was a democratic country then. Nearly 200 years it was the only democracy in the world- otherwise monarchy was ruling. We need to consider the fact, that you had freedom of expression in America in those days– and maybe even today. It was democracy – and all other countries were under monarchy. It was the safe way to go and to do it there. Because all these things will become democratic main theme: yoga, devotion, following religion – we all have freedom of expression. We have the saying in India that there is always a shadow under the lamp. My take on this is: who wants to remove that shadow under the lamp – you have tolight another lamp at a distance: that light will remove that shadow under the lamp. These three legends did that – and came back to India. We were under british rule then – you have no freedom of expression, nothing. Those days they went to America and started such a big thing; I think ShrilaPrabhupada went after India was liberated.

Q: and Osho: he created huge organization?

Guruji: yes, but he failed in USA. He is a legend in his own way – but you cannot compare him to these three.

Q: but I think among the common people he is the most popular?

Guruji: among the common people in India – no. But the respect, which Swami Vivekananda, Yogananda Paramahamsaand Shrila Prabhupada commanded… Osho is open for criticism – very controversial figure; even though he was an intellectual giant, that goes without saying. But his approach was not to grassroots level people – only rich. And all these three had a very grassroots level approach. I don’t think any big controversies was connected with these three – Vivekananda, Yogananda and Shrila Prabhupada.

Q: maybe the mission of these three was to show the world the alternative of jesus?

Guruji: in fact, it was hardcore Christian times in US then. Ku Klux Clan, Lynch and all other things were happening: that was not the very easy thing for Yogananda. Vivekananda visited it 2-3 times – but his main work started in India. I think Vivekananda got a lot of resistance from hardcore Christians. Maybe Prabhupada also. But they didn’t talk much about it, they let it buried.

I don’t want to go from Braj – Krishna’s playground. I considered myself fortunate and lucky to be here. This is maybe the biggest vegetarian area in the entire world. Here are millions of kitchens where even onion and garlic has never entered – this is the biggest pure vegetarian area.

Q: what is the problem with onion and garlic?

Guruji: they just don’t eat – because of the smell or something.

Q: because in any yoga text they are not mentioned. In Hatha Yoga Pradipika they are not in the list.

Guruji: agree, there they are not mentioned. Main point is – the largest pure vegetarian area.

Q: maybe this restriction connected with Rahu?

Guruji: no, when you take it the body smell increases and the breathe becomes faster. If you eat them much. Very simple thing – when a person is eating raw onion in salad and after he is trying to kiss you – it’s not a pleasant thing. And Radha and Krishna – it’s pure love.

THE CORRECT MANTRA

Q: You’ve got the recipe of mercury from sadhu; You’ve got mantra from other person: so most precious things are not available in the books.

Guruji: hints are there. And I like the saying in English: no one can be an alien. There always should be some interact.

Q: I remember when we discussed Mantra Mahodadhi You said that there are mistakes or deliberately confusions in every mantra?

Guruji: but general rules are given there! That means when you have received the mantra – you need to follow certain rules. Because a Guru might be in a hurry: he just gave you mantra – then you have to do research how to do it exactly.

Q: but in the body of mantra everything was correct?

Guruji: sometimes there are difference in printed mantras. That’s for you to find out!

Q: do You know that Blavatskaya in her book said that there is more than 5 elements – there are 2 more and she will give the information about them to the humanity?

Guruji: I’ve already said it: 2 more is prana and apana. Everybody keep missing them.

TO KNOW THE NAME OF THE LORD

Q: is it true that the process of thinking not affects the purity of the mind – no matter how much you will think?

Guruji: process of thinking is just reactionary behaviour to different thoughts from different sources: they will make your consciousness not so pure.

Q: pujas, rituals, tapas and different ascetic practices are also not leading to that?

Guruji: they’re quoting Gita – no rituals, no pujas, nothing.

Q: only by continuous reciting of the name of the Lord you will attain?

Guruji: but do you know the name of the Lord? It is impossible to pronounce it. But he is indicating towards the very great approach – the name of the Lord. When you cannot pronounce the name of your own spirit – Atma; then how can you directly pronounce the name of Paramatma?

Q: are they different – the name of Atma and Paramatma?

Guruji: yes! We ‘re trying to simplify the very complicated mysteries too much.

If you want to see the lord – go to the House of Lords in England: you will see so many Lords there.

Q: Guru Nanak and all his followers are teaching to recite the name of God – but no one gives the name?

Guruji: no. they were repeating what Guru Nanak was saying. You need to discover Lord in your heart first; if he’ll tell you his name – then you can go on reciting it.

On absolutely different point of view: if he is living in everybody’s heart  – that means all names belongs to him. Find the name and start recite it – your own name.

Q: do You know shlokas where Guru Nanak refers to yogis?

Guruji: he maybe mentioned Gorakhnath’s name once. But he was discussing absolutely different thing: he never supported yoga, but his own son, Chandr Ji, became the very famous yogi of his time. What he was preaching was for general masses, he was not teach so many mysterious things.

Yogananda was really great; he was trying to teach mlechchas. Hardcore Christians, Ku Klux Clan – we don’t know, how many Mormons and others were there. To make a place among them – it takes some struggle. this type of information is not so much available now.

Q: and Guru Nanak – he was not a yogi?

Guruji: we don’t know that. Nobody knows. Just tell me one thing: his Guru is unknown, but his son became a very famous yogi, who was looking like 25 years old when he was 40. That means – something was there. But he didn’t reveal it: for general people he just gave some points to live good and pious way of life. They were greatest of siddhas; Swami Haridas from Vrindavan – he learnt music, singing from the disciple of Guru Nanak,Mardana: he had only two disciples – Bala and Mardana. You can imagine, how the spiritual singing they were doing.

Q: bhajans?

Guruji: no bhajans, classical singing! We can imagine how Guru Nanak himself must be singing.

Q: what language they were singing?

Guruji: usually Hindi and Punjabi. And Swami Haridas two disciples are legends: one is Tansen, another – Baijubawara. They are legends! Who could bring water simply by singing, who would light lamps simply by singing – they were great singers! We don’t hear that kind of music anymore. Nowadays people have power: when they start singing – the audience disappears( smiling).

COMMUNICATION WITH YOUR OWN SPIRIT

Q: many disciples tell about different colours of kutastha they see – but I have no such experience?

Guruji: it will come: it’s the play of your spirit.

Q: it depends on people – different people see different colours?

Guruji: no, it depends on a spirit’s mood. One person can see it in different colours. Depends on how your spirit is feeling. Main suggestion is: just look at it, don’t react. Because the moment you will react, the mental state in which it is appearing will be disturbed.

Q: what to do, if it doesn’t come at all?

Guruji: that’s its will! Don’t react. Now you know: simply pressing the eyes will not make it appear.

Q: that colours have special meanings? For example, green colour means some kind of mood?

Guruji: no parallel. Until unless it started to talk you cannot draw any idea.

Q: so for me green colour and for him green colour may mean the different?

Guruji: it depends on the mood, yes. Until unless he opens up– we cannot discover.

When we say “romance” or “romantic things” people usually take it in a different way. But the word “romance” is very deep and mysterious word. In English dictionary – very high creative imagination is called “romance”. So, my take on that is as a yogi: if you will do good karma – you will get good results; if you will do bad karma – you will get bad results. As a yogi, my suggestion is: you must do romantic karma- so you will get romantic results. That’s how I think; you also think on that!

DHARMA AND KARMA

Q: it exists the opinion that dharma and karma are opposite things? Like they are on different sides?

Guruji: you do karma to make a new dharma. Very simple approach. It’s impossible to separate them.

Q: some people say that dharma means “duty”?

Guruji: ok, but then you will have to do karma to fulfil your duty. How they can do the separate things? In Sanskrit the definition is given for the word “dharma”: dharayet sa dharma – which carries you through life is dharma. So whatever is carrying you, supporting you can be called dharma.

Even Mother Earth is carrying you: she is also embodiment of dharma.

Your career, society – everything is dharma. Then your breath, your soul, your spirit – they are carrying you, so they are all part of dharma.

You need to have a highly developed mind to understand these things. This is just not only duty: duty for whom?

Q: someone says – it’s like social dharma and family dharma to pay the debts to society, country and family – but it’s not dharma?

Guruji: it’s part of dharma! Among the Hindus we believe there are three debts everybody is carrying: Pitra hrin– we’re in debt to our fathers, forefathers; Dev hrin– to the gods, who created everything; and Rishi hrin – for giving us wisdom. Sowe have to do our best to payback and use these things very wise.

Q: could we say that the person who is not doing his duties properly are out of dharma?

Guruji: yes, usually some people are in prison or police is after them.

Q: I mean if the person chooses the spiritual path?

Guruji: no, that is their dharma.

Q: if we take the situation like it was in ancient times: when the person is going to the forest to practice? On one hand he abandons his family, but…

Guruji: but on the other hand family is doing its duties towards that person, not stopping him to attain wisdom. So it goes both ways, not only one way.

Only by going away from society you’re in a situation to observe objectively and a different understanding will come. That’s why many mendicants were living in jungle for many-many years – they came back to society to teach. Because they have the objective observation and they could see what is going wrong and what we should do to be right: that’s how all the knowledge came up.

Q: so we cannot say that such spiritual person is going out of his dharma?

Guruji: spiritual person, who is going away from society, is not a fugitive; if you’re running from something or you’re a coward to face certain situation – then you’re  not spiritual at all.

Spiritual person I think is brave enough and is able to take responsibility to what he has done: he should face all the consequences for that. A fugitive is not so spiritual person: if you’re running away from the situation – it’s nothing. We should not consider them. But then they say: cowards do survive; but survival is not the only name of the game.

Q: most of the time the situation is created like this: if you’re able to do all your duties to the society, to the family, to the country – you will never take the spiritual path?

Guruji: see, anything you’re doing – can be spiritual. If there is no spirit inside you – what you will do? Every karma, no matter what your motive is, based on spirituality. We need to think on that also. Main thing is to understand the exact: how the dynamics of the things is working. Then you need to calm down first, stop reacting, and start developing your brain.

Q: how you can know your dharma if you’re not developing your mind?

Guruji: impossible, yes. You will follow some teacher who maybe not knowing his own dharma and maybe misguide you – that’s why so much confusions in society.

Q: so not knowing your dharma you just may take someone advises as it – and think it’s yours?

Guruji: but you have to make sure – the person is wise enough to give you advice. There is a great word in English: vice – means bad things; vice and wise. So is he giving you adVICEor adWISE?(smiling).you need to understand it first( laughing)

Q: we have the beautiful discussion that for the spirit the emotions are like great experience?

Guruji: they like the flavour.

Q: for the spirit matters, which type of emotions he experiences? Someone likes positive emotions more, someone negative?

Guruji: this is our point of view. What is spirit’s point of view – only it can tell you. Good and bad is a religious thing, and to survive in society good and bad is defined very clearly; but they also carry the different flavour and emotion and the spirit is just studying them.

Q: could it differ from spirit to spirit? Maybe someone likes to experience suffering so much that he makes the body he takes suffer more and more?

Guruji: I think that’s why the school of the emotion on this planet: so they come to study, take the flavour and go away. They must study all of them. Sometimes they create different situations so different emotions will come up.

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